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Poster: Sugaree83 Date: Jan 28, 2007 7:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Why ...

are the soundboard shows off limits?

btw ...

tks to those who put this site together.

i'm not sure you even know the great you have done.

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Poster: SDH2O Date: Jan 28, 2007 7:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why ...

Cause our dear friend Bob and Co. decided that they were seeing a potentially large revenue generating animal run free and so determined that the generousity of the "Hippie" days was over. They clamped down on the free distribution of sbds, saying that because they were taped directly from band property, they should remain band property. Don't be too sure that Auds won't also suffer the same fate one day. Grab what you can while they are still here.

This post was modified by SomeDarkHollow on 2007-01-29 03:42:25

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Poster: tigerbolt Date: Jan 28, 2007 7:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why ...

billy and mickey got it started(read barlow's statement about the meeting)bob ran his mouth and got blamed for the whole thing,phil,billy and mickey left him hangin.according to barlow two people where against it him and hunter,bobby gets the shit for speaking without a lawyer like the other members plus the short cutoffs didn't help.all in all it was the band's choice.i was pissed to start but realize the sbd are the bands property.glad it happen,i've met a lot of great people since the ban.enjoy the streams and support the band with the upcoming shows they will be putting out in years to come.lots of good stuff to come.

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Poster: Sugaree83 Date: Jan 28, 2007 7:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why ...

I have absolutely no problem with the boys getting some extra cash in their late years. They gave us all kinds of joy for prices well below market value for years and years and years.

but ...

Who the hell is their advisor on this ???

All these live shows, organized on one site, with the ability to download, would get enough hits on a daily basis to rake on all the cash they want.

Half of serious Dead fans didn't even start visiting this site until the soundboard shows were banned (from recording). The potential audience is huge.

Sorry, but a bad business decision by the gang.

They should have got together with archive.com if they wanted to monetize this stuff.

Note to all who visit this site - Get the message to Bob and the rest of the gang. We will gladly visit sponsors who advertise on a Grateful Dead site that allows downloads of all shows!!!!!

btw ... was just listening to Spectrum 3.30.87 .... such a nice baby blue. yes, we have all heard it enough, but ...

it's beautiful.

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Poster: SDH2O Date: Jan 28, 2007 7:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why ...

Well put. As far as I'm concerned I am grateful to have had as much access as we did for so long. Like you say, having to work a little harder now to get sbds just means new opportunities for creating bonds with new people.

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Poster: ducats Date: Jan 29, 2007 7:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why ...

those first 2 pics are great-thx. Do u think Jer ate anything? Don't see any ice cream there! I don't know about great things to come. The only thing I would ? is does any of the 5 guys REALLY need any money. I'm not talking about extended (wife+kids only) family. If they can live they should stick to their roots-which is what we KNOW Jer would have wanted.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jan 28, 2007 7:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why ...

hey tiger - which comet is that?? couldn't read the text - too late and night and the old eyes are bleary - saved the pic anyways - thanks man

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Poster: tigerbolt Date: Jan 28, 2007 7:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why ...

it's a recent comet,that some guy at shn/flac took.i'm not sure of the name.i'll check into it.here's some more

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Poster: cush11 Date: Jan 28, 2007 8:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why ...

Thanks Tiger, great pics! In 98(?) for Hale-Bopp I was living in a very rural part of AZ... Absolutely no light pollution and a very wide horizon. Would watch it rise from the front porch and then lay in bed and watch it through my skylight! Was a great Flyin' Zion Easter that year too!

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jan 28, 2007 8:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why ...

way cool man!! thanks for those pics - very cool it is a recent comet - ive gotta stay more in tune with the astronomical phenomena going on around our dear planet. nice shots by that dude.

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Poster: not_a_typical_daydream Date: Jan 28, 2007 8:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why ...

The best thing I've found is to absorb the wealth of knowledge these wonderful people have and then download shows from www.speedingarrow.net and www.brentmydland.net.
Here's a post I bookmarked from Dhamma1, this is still keeping me busy.
Peace.
This sort of question has come up here often and people have been generous with their recommendations. I once searched the Forum and copied the following threads to my PDA for reference. The first section is cumulates many recommendations by frequency; the others are individual people's, including the impeccable ones of Dr. Flashback.

These are lists of best "shows" rather than best versions, but may help you navigate the 2,300 offerings on LMA nonetheless.

- Michael

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Best Shows by IA Readers
"what would you say the best Grateful Dead show on the archive is, meaning best sound, performance, songlist..."
The following shows were mentioned in 4 threads that pursued this question:


8 people mention 3/1/1969 not available at IA
7 5/8/1977
6 8/27/1972 not available at IA
4 9/3/1977 not available at IA

3 2/14/1968
3 6/18/1974
3 5/9/1977
3 10/29/1977
3 7/8/1978
3 3/29/1990

2 2/13/1970
2 4/29/1971
2 2/9/1973
2 5/26/1973

2 2/24/1974
2 5/19/1974
2 6/9/1977
2 12/29/1977
2 5/6/1981

2 9/18/1987
2 7/17/1989
2 9/20/1990
2 9/10/1991

1 8/21/1968
1 10/13/1968
1 2/27/1969
1 2/28/1969
1 4/21/1969
1 11/2/1969
1 11/8/1969
1 12/12/1969
1 2/11/1970
1 5/2/1970
1 4/28/1971
1 4/24/1972
1 4/26/1972
1 5/11/1972
1 9/28/1972
1 6/10/1973
1 9/11/1973
1 11/11/1973
1 12/2/1973
1 2/24/1974
1 6/28/1974
1 8/6/1974
1 10/18/1974
1 8/13/1975
1 6/24/1976
1 2/26/1977
1 5/7/1977
1 11/6/1977
1 10/21/1978
1 12/31/1978
1 3/13/1981

1 5/1/1981 "specially critical if you're a fan of ALTHEA, LET IT GROW, DEAL, BIG RIVER, and first sets in general"

1 8/28/1981
1 10/16/1981

4-19-82 has the (in)famous "RavenSpace" in which the boys indulge in nitrous on stage and Phil quotes from Poe. All of which overshadows the fact that the show is incredible, especially the 2nd set which features one of the best ESTIMATED's ever, along w/an amazingly beautiful STELLA BLUE, terrific WHEEL, and much more.


1 7/28/1982
1 7/31/1982
1 8/10/1982
1 9/11/1982
1 5/14/1983
1 10/15/1983
1 10/17/1983
1 10/21/1983
1 11/2/1984
1 6/25/1985
1 6/30/1985
1 7/8/1987
1 3/31/1989
1 7/18/1989
1 8/19/1989
1 10/9/1989
1 10/16/1989
1 3/26/1990
1 3/30/1990
1 4/1/1991
1 6/14/1991
1 6/17/1991
1 5/27/1993
1 9/22/1993


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The Top Ten Question

Poster: stratocaster Date: April 15, 2005 09:58:33am Forum: etree Subject: The 10 Most Essential Grateful Dead Shows The Grateful Dead played over 2,300 shows in their 30 year career. The line-ups and the music (and drugs ;P) changed over the years, but the musical ideology basically remained the same. The bands improvisational and organic style lends itself to discussion and review of the subjective nature. This list is a humble attempt to list the 10 most "essential" GD shows ever. Criteria include: musical and vocal performance, sound quality, historical significance, recording quality, among other things...

1. 08-27-1972--Veneta--The best and most psychadelic and spiritual performance in the Dead's career. The bootleg film "Sunshine Daydream" captures the afternoon's activities.
Highlights are many...China-Rider, Playin', Greatest Story, Bird Song, Dark Star>El Paso, Sing Me Back Home...

2. 12-31-1978--Winterland--The best New Year's Performance. The Dead and Bill Graham close Winterland in style. A+ set list...they do everything...

3. 04-29-1971--Fillmore East--the last night of an excellent April run by the Dead. Hard to Handle , Alligator, Cold Rain>GDTRFB are some of the many highlights.

4. 05-08-1977--Barton Hall--Sure it might be over-rated, but to not have this show in a top 10 list would be asenine. Top shelf versions of Dancin, Scarlet>Fire, Estimated, St. Stephen>NFA>Morning Dew...the band's in peak form.

5. 02-13-1970--Fillmore East--This show capture the boys at their best during the American Beauty days...Smokestack Lightening, Dark Star (lysergic), Lovelight are huge...

6. 03-29-1990--Nassau Coliseum--Branford Marsalis guests on sax and the band finds heaven in set 2. Bird Song, Eyes of the World, Dark Star, Knockin' On Heaven's Door...

7. 03-01-1969--Fillmore West--best show of the 60s. The American version of the Magnificant Seven serve up the stew during Cryptical>O1, New Potatoe, Dark Star, Lovelight...

8. 06-18-1974--Freedom Hall--Incredible 74 show. Great sound quality and premiere versions of Wake of the Flood songs. Jazzy Dead.

9. 09-20-1990--MSG--This is the most intense show of the 90s. Bruce Hornsby is with the band at this point. Explosive set 2.

10. 08-13-1975--Great Amercian Music Hall--very unique show deserves a place in everyone's collection. Blues for Allah material is played beautifully in this intimate setting. (This is the official View from the Vault 1)


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Dr. Flashback's Top 10 Lists (* simply means I haven't listend to it yet myself)


1969 -
1/26/69
2/22/69
*2/28/69
*3/1/69
4/5/69
4/21/69
*4/22/69
*5/24/69
11/8/69
*12/30/69

1970 - speculative, so much is unknown.
*1/2/70
*1/23/70
2/11/70
2/13/70
*5/2/70
5/15/70
9/19/70
9/20/70
10/31/70
11/8/70

1971 -
*2/19/71
*4/5/71
*4/28/71
4/29/71
7/2/71
11/7/71
*12/6/71
*12/10/71
12/14/71
*12/31/71

1972 -
*4/8/72
*4/14/72
*5/11/72
*5/26/72
7/26/72
*8/24/72
*8/27/72
*9/17/72
*9/21/72
*12/31/72

1973 -
2/15/73
*3/24/73
3/28/73 - part. SBD, Dark Star>Eyes>Playin. Nuff said.
5/26/73
*6/30/73
*10/30/73
*11/11/73
*11/17/73
*11/21/73
*12/6/73

1974 -
2/24/74
*5/14/74
5/21/74
*6/16/74
6/18/74
*7/31/74
*8/6/74
*9/18/74
*10/17/74
*10/19/74

1977 - nearly impossible, throwing darts blindfolded.
2/26/77
*3/19/77
5/4/77
5/7/77
5/8/77 - sorry, but it has to be mentioned, lol.
*5/25/77
6/9/77
10/2/77
10/29/77
11/4/77

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Best of each year

From IA forum:

September 30, 2006 12:27:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: best of each year
Hi there, been listening to shows off this site for some time, but only recently began reading the forum messages, now find it quite addictive. Thought this was an interesting posting, so thought I’d add my two cents. Found it difficult to narrow it down to one, so how about top two shows for selected years?

1969: Fillmore West Shows that produced both Live/Dead and the more recent Fillmore West 1969 3 CD set, plus 6-7 Fillmore West with Janis Joplin.

1970: May 2 Binghamton and the free show at MIT 2 days later (it was cold out there but they really rocked the university) oh yeah and the February Fillmore East shows, on the 11th and the 13th.

1971: either 4-28 or 4-29 (which has some incredible free flowing jams) though overall 4-28 is a more solid show

1972: 8-27 is good, though my pick is for Stanley Theater, 9-28…..how about St. Louis 10-18….a seriously underrated show (Phil on that Dark star is eerily similar to Venetia).

1973: Maples Pavilion 02-09 and Kezar Stadium 05-26

1974: Boston Garden June 28th Winterland 10-18.

1976: Beacon Theater June 14th and Cow Palace 12-31 (man, I haven’t heard that show in years, I used to have it on cassette)

1977: Buffalo and Cornell May 8th and 9th and Swing Auditorium 2-22

1978: The Close Encounters show 1-22 and 2-5 Cedar Falls, IA.

For me, creatively speaking, it all began to plateau after 1978......though they were some good shows (1985 Greek Theater, 1988 Laguna Seca Speedway, spring '89 shows) but nothing like these. Later,


Poster: Liamfinnegan Date: September 30, 2006 03:28:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: best of each year

1969 3-1 and 11-8 Dead Heat

1971 12-10

1972 9-21-72

1973 11-11-73

1974 10-8

1975 8-13

1976 6-28

1977 9-3

1981 3-9

1982 4-6

1983 9-13

1987 4-6 (final Dancin)

1988 4-1 (one of only 3 ballad of the thin man- smoking Deal- one of the best first sets of the year- maybe top ten for the decade)

1989 7-7

1990 9-20/6/16 tie again

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Poster: TheGreat_and_Knowledgable Date: Jan 29, 2007 4:31am
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This post above me owns, i wish someone could sticky it like in other forums. Very nice job.

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Poster: JodyC Date: Jan 29, 2007 5:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why ...

While its open, can't you bookmark it or just print it?

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Poster: stealyourwife Date: Mar 25, 2010 10:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Why ...

So aggrovating...

I look up like ten of your suggestions and they were all "commercial releases"

i give up, thanks anyways for the list